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- How bad--according to our authors and/or their characters--is
death? Is there something worse (or possibly worse)? If so,
what? Contrast the views expressed by different authors and/or
characters (note: you cannot assume that authors agree with
what their characters say!), and say something about the significance
of the differences you find. Obvious examples: Achilles; Hector;
Socrates in the Apology; Socrates in Xenophon. (But there are
other examples, and more than one answer for some on the list above.)
- What--according to our authors and/or their characters--does
it mean to benefit people? Is it the same as making them better? What
makes something useful or profitable? Is it the same as what would
make it beneficial? Conversely, what does it mean to harm people? Is
it the same as corrupting them (making them worse)? Is wisdom (and/or
knowledge and/or understanding) beneficial, useful, profitable (by
these standards)? Could it be harmful? (Note: different characters
and/or authors may disagree on the meaning of those terms, as well.)
(Obviously you will want to discuss Plato's Socrates, but, as far as
who else to talk about, there are many other possibilities, including
Diogenes the Cynic, Socrates in Xenophon and Aristophanes, various
other characters in these authors, and characters from the Iliad, e.g. Nestor, Hector, Achilles.)
- What--according to our authors and/or their characters--is the
correct way of speaking before an audience? (Does is make a difference
who you are and who is in the audience?) Is it important to tell them
what they want to hear? What they need to hear? (``Need'' for what?)
Is it good or bad to make them laugh? To make them cry? To insult
them? To flatter them? Why? (What is the relationship between speaking
well and speaking truly? Speaking justly?) What is the purpose of
public speaking? What can go wrong with it? (In addition to the
Socrates (in various versions) and Diogenes the Cynic, think of, for
example, Nestor, Thersites, Euthyphro, and Aristophanes--including
especially his portrayal of himself by means of the chorus.)
- Do mortals--according to our authors and/or their
characters--inflict suffering on themselves, or can this be blamed on
the gods (and/or ``fate''), or neither or both? (Note: the question
here is about responsibility, not about ``free will,'' though of
course there might be some relationship between the two.) How, if at
all, does blaming the gods for one's actions affect one's own
responsibility for them. (See Agamemnon's apology (defense), Iliad XIX.76-144, and compare Socrates', and note they both are
afraid the audience will ``murmur''--why? Compare also what Euthyphro
says in justification for his planned prosecution of his father.)
Similarly (but the answer might be different), are mortals responsible
for (what seem to be) their positive achievements? Again, you can
contrast the views expressed by different characters, but here you
might want to give special weight to some authors' own views, insofar
as one can deduce them from the plot. What do the different views
imply about morality? Or: about religion? (If you wrote about a topic
similar to this for the first paper, you should explain how the new
material has changed and/or confirmed your previous understanding.)
- A different topic which could be developed using mostly the
same materials (but Aristophanes could play a bigger role):
what--according to our authors and/or their characters--is the
relationship between the gods--or belief in the gods--and justice?
(What does ``belief in'' mean? Always the same thing? And
``justice''?) Again, what are the implications for morality and
religion?
- Another related topic: why--according to our authors and/or
their characters--do the gods love some human beings more than
others? If one is not loved by the gods, according to them, is there
anything one can do to change that? If so, should one do so (i.e. should one always try to be loved by the gods), and if so why? Does
being loved by the gods lead to special benefits? Does it confer
special rights or privileges? Why? (Note: the epithet ``whom the gods
love,'' applied to kings in our translation of Homer, actually
translates diotrephes, literally ``nurtured by Zeus.'' But
it's clear nevertheless that the gods of the Iliad love
various humans for various reasons.)
- According to our authors and/or their characters, what
obligations (if any) do children bear to parents and vice versa?
(There may or may not be a difference between fathers and mothers or
between sons and daughters.) What is the source of such obligations?
(Are they similar to the obligation of paying off a debt, or of
``justice'' in general?) What, if anything, might cancel such
obligations? Think of the Euthyphro; of several moments in the
Apology; of Strepsiades and Pheidippides in the Clouds; also of numerous examples from the Iliad. (Note:
the Euthyphro potentially raises issues about divine parents
and/or children, as well as human ones.) (If you use Aristophanes, it
is particularly important, and especially in this case, not just to
take at face value what the characters say. What attitudes is
Aristophanes parodying or commenting on, and what is he implying about
them?)
- How or to what extent does Plato, in his Apology and/or
elsewhere, defend Socrates, and how or to what extent does he attack
him? Similarly, how or to what extent does Aristophanes attack and
defend Socrates? To what extent does he identify with Socrates, and
what, if anything, does he show to be the difference between them?
(Note: clearly the character of Socrates in the Clouds is
meant as a parody, rather than a literal representation; you must try
to figure out what kind of figure Aristophanes is parodying, i.e. what he thinks the real Socrates is like.) Do Plato and/or Plato's
Socrates agree or disagree with Aristophanes on these points? How do
both compare to Xenophon? (You may want to use the figures of Terrence
and Phillip in the South Park movie as an analogy. But I
strongly recommend making the paper mostly about Plato and
Aristophanes; writing about the movie is likely to seem easy and
therefore to lead to an uninteresting paper.)
- Socrates tends to ask questions rather than telling people
things (though he does sometimes tell them things). This is clear in
both Plato and Xenophon, and there is at least some sign of it in
Aristophanes. Why would he do that? How would Plato's Socrates explain
this, based on what he says in the Apology? Is that the whole
story? (Does Plato think it is?) How would Xenophon and/or Xenophon's
Socrates explain? What about Aristophanes? (Here again you should try
if possible to distinguish between what Socrates' opponents might
think, as they are portrayed in the Clouds, and what
Aristophanes himself thinks.) How does this way of speaking (asking
questions instead of committing oneself to statements) compare to
Aristophanes' and Plato's ways of writing (through the mouths of other
characters)? How does it compare to Xenophon's?
- According to our authors and/or their characters, how much
respect, if any, is owed to traditional stories, beliefs, laws,
customs, or conventions? Of course Diogenes the Cynic (as presented in
the stories we read) has an extreme attitude towards this--but
remember that in one of the stories Plato calls him ``Socrates gone
wild.'' How does he resemble Socrates, and what nevertheless makes him
``gone wild''? Here I'm thinking mostly about Plato's Socrates, but
there might be something to say about Aristophanes' and even
Xenophon's Socrates, too. And what about Plato and Aristophanes
themselves--what are their attitudes on this issue? (You could also
discuss some characters from the Iliad here. We know what
Nestor thinks. Do the other characters agree? Does Homer?)
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Abe Stone
2005-09-28